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supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 01/20/21 04:21PM

pugsaremydrugs said: Your post is right above mine, so I don't need to copy it. I'm just quoting to show that this is a response to you

I have no academic background, so this is just posturing on my part, but one of my reasons for dropping out of college was the high cost of tuition, including having to pay hundreds of dollars just to access a highly-monitored database of articles that would only be read once and never again. Maybe if it had been an Ivy League school, they would be more prestigious, but maybe not, considering what happened to Aaron Swartz.

Worse still, I think the debate about privatization of knowledge is further delayed by the fact that- in order to be fully qualified to have a legitimate understanding of how the system works- you need to be on the side that supports it. Otherwise you're just emptily pontificating, like me.



laura.loli - Group: Unofficial Gardener's Guild - Total Posts: 350
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Posted on: 01/20/21 09:17PM

Hollow_Pieuvre said:
As I said, I wouldn't pay $482 USD a month even if he/she was the absolute best of the best at illustrating/animating. Ever.

Honestly, I wouldn't be willing to pay that even once for the most part. Maybe if they were insanely good, they churned out hundreds of images every month (all of which I loved) and that was a one-time payment for access to everything they produced for their lifetime I'd consider it. But I'm not paying that much even to grab the whole backlog of years of art even once from that artist in question, and I honestly can't think of a single artist I'd be willing to do it for.

pugsaremydrugs said:
Let's slightly derail this thread and reframe the question of copyright: when it comes to websites like Sci-Hub forgoing expensive subscriptions to academic journals. Who is at fault? The scholars? The professors who coach the scholars? The publishing companies? The people who allow Sci-Hub access to these articles?

Oh that one's easy, it's the publishing companies who run the journals. The journals are basically a scam at this point. Scientists have to pay to submit their papers (ostensibly to cover the costs of formatting); peer review is done for free by other scientists; and then scientists & institutions have to pay for subscriptions. Subscriptions that constantly increase in price every year and had already hit astronomical pricing decades ago. You'll notice that the journals themselves are doing very little themselves, and even some of the things they do (formatting) is paid for by scientists.

You will find very, very few scientists and librarians who support this system, but it's locked in place and it's hard to change it. And that's why Sci-Hub continues to survive.

A related note: If you want to read a paper for some reason, don't have access to a subscription to the journal, and can't find it on Sci-Hub try e-mailing the authors directly. Most of them are happy to share their pre-prints with pretty much anyone that asks nicely, and all you miss out on is some fancier formatting.



Dalamar - Group: Member - Total Posts: 67
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Posted on: 02/27/21 08:26AM

lozertuser said:
There was no pressure. We didn't allow paywall content, and yet there were Patreon uploads which were restricted by a paywall. So we (Zapdos) convinced Danbooru to also remove them, for the same reasoning.

Thanks for redirecting everyone to sankaku and sadpanda


/s

s also stands for scummy as fuck



Hinata_2-8 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 74
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Posted on: 09/28/21 09:42AM

Well, those artists need dough from their talents. And making one picture is not cheap actually.
Take Circle_anco, they sell their merch for almost more than $10 per set in DLSite.
So those patreons need money to survive too.
Take born-to-die, most of that artist's releases require money to be unlocked. Once you get them by paying, you can either keep it to yourself or share it to the world.
Bokuman Studios too, they need patreons for their NSFW works, all their sex scenes have to be paid, while questionable or safe ones were free.

Remember, Hentai art costs money, and it is not cheap. From the drawboard to a single paper costs big.



fobar - Group: Member - Total Posts: 35
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Posted on: 10/05/21 06:45AM

Hinata_2-8 said:
Well, those artists need dough from their talents.


You posted this here, on a booru site. You're not paying for porn any more than OP is... you're the same lmao



PietroSoft - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2500
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Posted on: 10/06/21 04:34PM

Check this shit: post #6531637 this is the kind of artist i say, fuck him, leak his shit, post it everywhere.



lozertuser - Group: The Fake Administrator - Total Posts: 2232
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Posted on: 10/06/21 05:53PM

PietroSoft said:
Check this shit: post #6531637 this is kind of artist i say, fuck him, leak his shit, post it everywhere.


How about no?



PietroSoft - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2500
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Posted on: 10/06/21 05:54PM

lozertuser said:
How about no?

I mean his art. That is just next level greedy.

It screams fuck you, give me money.



Undeaddragon - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3442
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Posted on: 10/06/21 06:00PM

Ngl i'm curious to see what the exchange between the two of you will go.



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3658
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Posted on: 10/06/21 06:09PM

PietroSoft said:
Check this shit: post #6531637 this is kind of artist i say, fuck him, leak his shit, post it everywhere.

That seems extremely greedy to be honest, but I don't think fighting fire with fire is the best solution.

Best you can do is just ignore the artist and criticize them occasionally.



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