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borkfren - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2
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what is everyone's opinion on nofap?
Posted on: 04/22/21 10:55PM

ive been jerking off to increasingly weird things, im kind of disgusted by myself. i know going nofap will (whatever positive effect). but i will miss the gelbooru community. i look forward to jerking off. i just want to see what a bunch of horny fucks have to say on the matter. have a good day!



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 231
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Posted on: 04/22/21 11:10PM

I wouldn't dismiss it as complete bullshit, but there's no proven science to it. From my experience, most people who insist on nofap are usually overcompensating weirdos trying to project their hatred of masturbation onto people who do. Numerous studies from more trustworthy sources insist that masturbation is healthy, and the benefits you get from abstaining from are greatly exaggerated. Hell, some even say it's better to masturbate than to not.

Honestly, you shouldn't abstain from masturbating if you're really going to miss it. It's just going to make you more miserable, and all those so-called health benefits may not even happen. Moderation is the key. Masturbation is only a problem if you feel you're controlled by it. You do it daily and you wholeheartedly feel it's having a negative impact on your life.

As for me jerking off to weirder things, I think I know the feeling. When I started jerking to oppai lolis (lolis with massive fucking tits) and ridiculously curvy adolescents, I felt weirded out and ashamed by myself. I felt I was slowly transforming into some sort of creep and that I needed to stop masturbating to prevent becoming a true creep. But as time passed on, I've accepted that it's all just fantasy, and it's what I like. Then I started to embrace jerking off daily. However that could be that I've never really gotten into anything more weirder than that, so I'm blessed in a way.

Sometimes I do I should abstain myself, but I feel there are more important things I should be focused on. Not just cutting out masturbation because it's the most obvious thing to cut out, and something others could judge you on.



EveryCitrus - Group: Member - Total Posts: 12
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Posted on: 04/22/21 11:17PM

Already posted a bunch of my thoughts on it on the other thread 'Is it bad that I like to fap to boku no pico?' but I'll add some more here.

Spend the time to work out whether you're either searching for something sexually because you felt unfulfilled before (probably not if you were just fine with what you saw before,) are chronically dopamine-starved and are therefore looking for a 'high' that can be driven best, in your case and as you may have discovered, by taboo...

...or whether you understand perfectly what the concept of the 'Play Frame' is in psychology, you believe it readily applies to sexual fantasies, and are just applying self-guilt based on moral standards from others and most of your confusion comes from the fact that this guilt is incongruous with the fact that you are subconsciously aware that fantasies aren't real, and your reaction and exploration of feelings within those fantasies are the way they are, precisely because you know they are fantasies and are not real.

I think it's more readily accepted that some people enjoy playing out stuff like zombie survival situations in their head, get bored and start filming an action scene with themselves as the star, imagining what would happen if right there and then, nutters with guns popped up and started shooting everyone around - basically, any non-sexual fantasy that feels 'fun' only in imagination or 'play' doesn't give many people the indigestion that happens when sexuality becomes part of it.

If you feel like it is different because you'd want to engage in some of those activities in real life, then consider the BDSM community and some of the elaborate and downright stomach-turning 'scenes' that consenting adults can and do enjoy, which could be summed up as torture, slavery and extreme rape. If your fantasy works with make-believe or consent from another party, and isn't primarily driven around violating the consent and having no empathy for the other party, congratulations, you're probably mentally healthy.

Find what works for you, and stop beating yourself up over stuff that doesn't matter. Save the worry for stuff that might actually matter - such as if you start wanting to hurt other people, violate consent, or are using sexual fantasies as a continuous distraction/procrastination from doing things you either would rather be being, should be doing, or from working on your own problems.

tl;dr it's a load of crap and won't actually help you 'fix' anything unless you do the other work to self-analyse and self-therapise (or get actual therapy, too) in which case, unless you literally need to avoid masturbation as part of whatever mental health condition you're actually treating in full, you didn't need nofap in the first place.



EveryCitrus - Group: Member - Total Posts: 12
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Posted on: 04/22/21 11:26PM

As for me jerking off to weirder things, I think I know the feeling. When I started jerking to oppai lolis (lolis with massive fucking tits) and ridiculously curvy adolescents, I felt weirded out and ashamed by myself. I felt I was slowly transforming into some sort of creep and that I needed to stop masturbating to prevent becoming a true creep. But as time passed on, I've accepted that it's all just fantasy, and it's what I like. Then I started to embrace jerking off daily. However that could be that I've never really gotten into anything more weirder than that, so I'm blessed in a way.

Sometimes I do I should abstain myself, but I feel there are more important things I should be focused on. Not just cutting out masturbation because it's the most obvious thing to cut out, and something others could judge you on.

Yeah, been there done that, too, loli as well for me but also mixed in with other 'ickier' kinks, to boot.

I masturbate nearly daily anyway - for a lot of men especially (but some women too) that's a 'high, but normal' variation of sex drive. If you can manage it daily because it's fun and you genuinely have the time, then, there's no harm. I knew this about myself and knew that if it was genuinely a bad idea or I am simply too busy at the time, I don't do it, because I have years upon years of actual proof of my behaviour in situations such as family or business trips, times of extremely busy workloads from different angles, illnesses etc.

As for what I enjoy, I know that I'm just into cute stuff, that I've also always been OK with cartoons, human and otherwise as a sexual concept, that I can still perform sexually for my wife in many other ways that don't rely on impossible fictions, and that whatever I generate in my subconscious is fine, because there's literally nothing coming to harm from it, and that's the entire point. So many things that I would (or do) enjoy in a game or in a sexual fantasy scene, would be disgusting in real life, because why wouldn't it be? I love first-person-shooters and hyperviolence as well but I know my reaction to it in person is totally different. Same for sexual concepts. A loli is a drawing of the concept of a child, but through the lens of a grown adult's post-puberty, sexualised world view, and through the distorting views of anime styling. It has as much to do with actual children as a game of Silent Hill does, and I question the actual sanity of people that would disagree with that. Yes, there are people that use it as a 'wedge' for children and as a legal (in some countries) proxy for illegal, nasty stuff, but... I'm not one of them. And I know that, so I have no guilt - because I have nothing to feel guilt for.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 421
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Posted on: 04/22/21 11:56PM

There's such a thing as so much pleasure it's painful, you know. I've gone months without wanking and the return to pleasure fantasy island is like a mild acid trip. Not to mention really difficult to clean up. The physical strain of being that backed up is enough justification for me to masturbate daily. I'm told I shoot more in volume than most guys.

I've always had weird fetishes, but it wasn't until discovering this site that my darker tastes were revealed to me, and it was when I discovered my attraction to men.

Coming out as bi actually is the perfect analogy for every fetish I've discovered, actually. I'm used to it at this point. No shame at all. I think this site is just unique in that everyone admits they like stuff regardless if it's embarrassing or not.



Assjacket - Group: Member - Total Posts: 198
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Posted on: 04/23/21 12:47AM

SadSap said:
I wouldn't dismiss it as complete bullshit, but there's no proven science to it. From my experience, most people who insist on nofap are usually overcompensating weirdos trying to project their hatred of masturbation onto people who do. Numerous studies from more trustworthy sources insist that masturbation is healthy, and the benefits you get from abstaining from are greatly exaggerated. Hell, some even say it's better to masturbate than to not.


This. I've heard justification for not fapping ranging from 'masturbating trains you to be a misogynist' to porn and masturbation being part of a government conspiracy to lower the birth rate, but never once anything grounded in reality. It's usually tied to an anti-pornographic agenda in some way, or just pure projection ("I was addicted and skipped work to fap 20 times a day therefore everyone that masturbates is the same way, you need to cut it out of your life man").

You kind of have to trust your gut on this one. If you feel better not fapping, by all means go for it. But if you want to jerk off, don't feel like you shouldn't. I think pretty much everyone here has masturbated to something more degenerate than they were comfortable with at least a couple times. You don't think clearly when you're horny, and to me that's all the more reason to fap and clear my head.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 421
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Posted on: 04/23/21 12:57AM

You don't think clearly when you're horny, and to me that's all the more reason to fap and clear my head.

YOU DON'T?!

I think I found the problem.

That's like the only time of day when I feel like myself.

...Plus, that's dangerous. I mean, what if you're masturbating in front of somebody? Can you control yourself then??



Dosan - Group: Member - Total Posts: 9
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Posted on: 04/23/21 02:05AM

If you are addicted to masturbation in the sense it is interfering with the rest of your life, then that is a problem. But that is the only "actual" danger of masturbation in itself.

A lot of the nofap stuff just seems like ways to encourage people to stop masturbating using dubious "science" and testimonials. Instead of something simple like "I now do more productive things with my time" it's more like "when I jerked off I was morbidly obese and mentally deficient and no one liked me, but after I stopped jerking off I turned into an exact replica of 1980's David Hasselhoff combined with the mind of Stephen Hawking".



laura.loli - Group: Member - Total Posts: 242
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Posted on: 04/23/21 03:25PM

Dosan said:
If you are addicted to masturbation in the sense it is interfering with the rest of your life, then that is a problem. But that is the only "actual" danger of masturbation in itself.

A lot of the nofap stuff just seems like ways to encourage people to stop masturbating using dubious "science" and testimonials. Instead of something simple like "I now do more productive things with my time" it's more like "when I jerked off I was morbidly obese and mentally deficient and no one liked me, but after I stopped jerking off I turned into an exact replica of 1980's David Hasselhoff combined with the mind of Stephen Hawking".

This right here!

Masturbation is normal and healthy, unless you're doing it so often and/or in places where it causes problems with the rest of your life. Everyone pushing against masturbation have an agenda, usually based in religious beliefs, and pretty much don't give a damn about your actual physical and mental health. They're also usually doing it as part of an anti-porn agenda.

So masturbate all you want as long as it isn't causing you problems in the rest of your life, and don't feel guilty about it at all. If you do have an addiction to masturbation, then you should seek help from a psychologist, because merely trying to avoid masturbating isn't going to solve whatever underlying issues have caused the addiction. In fact it could make things worse.



SuperCoolUsername - Group: Member - Total Posts: 23
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Posted on: 04/24/21 02:18PM

Imagine freaking the fuck out over bodily functions lol



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