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SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2747
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Dialouge in american porn vs. hentai
Posted on: 01/11/21 12:15PM

American porn: "Oh yeah, Oh Yeah! Shove that fat cock my ass harder! Harder! Come on you motherfucker! Destroy my pussy!"

Hentai: "Kyaaaah! No!! Yamete!! Stop! Awwwaughuwu! But.... it... feels good only when it's you, onee-sama...."

Anyone else find the difference so perplexing? No? Just me?



lozertuser - Group: The Fake Administrator - Total Posts: 2146
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Posted on: 01/11/21 12:38PM

I mute porn, it's just annoying to listen to.



pugsaremydrugs - Group: Unofficial Gardener's Guild - Total Posts: 980
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Posted on: 01/11/21 02:09PM

neither are all too good



Xalrun - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 4675
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Posted on: 01/11/21 02:25PM

Porn sucks.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1453
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Posted on: 01/11/21 02:37PM

There are cultural differences between Japan and AmeriKKKa, for one. Everyone in the West is more open about sex thanks to the 60's revolution, and it has a much larger porn industry. Bigger audiences means more mainstream acting. Japanese porn is more focused on a niche so the scenes are more like soap operas (just like a lot of their TV series). Then there is the difference between anime and live action- (what little there is of) Western-animated porn is generally closer to Japanese ecchi anime than any real life equivalent.

If you're only talking about hentai, then of course they're not going to act like American actresses. They're trying to create fantasy fetish worlds for otaku, starring fictional characters with over-the-top personalities. The seiyuu know how to exaggerate the expressions of the people they're voicing so they sound very different from real life people. Although, a lot of media has influenced Japanese culture to the point that they adopt the traits and mannerisms from fantasy, but that's another subject.



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Posted on: 01/11/21 06:01PM

^Adding on to what supremz said; In terms of overall quality, it isn't even close: In hentai the writing, plot and acting are all a crap-shoot. (Music is more limited, it ranges from mediocre to bad, but it's going to be on mute anyways.) Hentai is like pizza in the sense that when it's good it's great and when it's bad it's still pretty good because you didn't have to do any actual work for it.

Meanwhile, American porn with it's obsession with the gonzo style is just about always bad, but it depends on what kind of bad is it. American porn is like a convention hookup, in that the best you can expect is an option where it's not immediately obvious how it's going go south. It's slowly getting better, with certain glamor sites having a much higher production value and actual attempts at acting and story, but I miss the days where I can flip to HBO and catch a B-movie with explicit scenes or a softcore porno.

Also the 70's were supposedly the high point for good porn, to the point serious critics reviewed them www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-x-rated-roger-ebert.

Also Also, queer porn is the lowest of the low, to the point I'm not sure why they bother with any pretense of "acting" or "plot". It's weird that it's horrendously shitty quality is consistent no matter what genders of the gays in question. My "favorite" being a film that was supposed to be a serious drama about the dangers of lesbian rape, and apparently no one told the seemingly straight actresses how to go about it so they seemingly had to improvise the dialogue and the explicit sex scenes. Yeah.



laura.loli - Group: Unofficial Gardener's Guild - Total Posts: 350
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Posted on: 01/11/21 07:34PM

Also add in that the vast majority of "lesbian" porn in the west is made for men, not actual lesbians. I believe the thinking is that lesbians don't like to watch porn, but that's largely because it's nearly all made for men... Catch-22.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1453
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Posted on: 01/11/21 08:53PM

I think there's already a lesbian porn demographic called "KH Fanfiction", but I could be wrong.

Not trying to bash homosexuals (or whatever you prefer to be called), of course. There really needs to be more porn for women of every sexual orientation, but once money is involved, we all know where that will take us... The porn industry is already suffering the way it is, both from the inside and out.

I mean, nobody lighting a crucifix ever stopped men from fucking each other on screen, so it can't be homophobia, right?

Cypress_Cat:
^Adding on to what supremz said; In terms of overall quality, it isn't even close: In hentai the writing, plot and acting are all a crap-shoot. (Music is more limited, it ranges from mediocre to bad, but it's going to be on mute anyways.) Hentai is like pizza in the sense that when it's good it's great and when it's bad it's still pretty good because you didn't have to do any actual work for it.

Strangely, I actually prefer the music and acting in hentai. Perhaps that makes me odd, because I have only ever encountered people complaining about the audio in porn on this site, and it seems like a common opinion. Maybe I need to get out more. :P

I miss the days where I can flip to HBO and catch a B-movie with explicit scenes or a softcore porno.

You're not alone.

Also, queer porn is the lowest of the low, to the point I'm not sure why they bother with any pretense of "acting" or "plot". It's weird that it's horrendously shitty quality is consistent no matter what genders of the gays in question.

What about The L Word? I know that wasn't exactly PORN, but I recall a lot of lesbians liking it. It had kind of that B-movie quality to it that you mentioned before. It was a step in the right direction, at least.



Assjacket - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1268
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Posted on: 01/11/21 08:55PM

lozertuser said:
I mute porn, it's just annoying to listen to.


This. Additionally, hentai anime/OVAs are really the bottom of the barrel for hentai. The quality is generally extremely low compared to H games and such. Although you can get a great laugh by listening to the English dubs.


laura.loli said:
Also add in that the vast majority of "lesbian" porn in the west is made for men, not actual lesbians. I believe the thinking is that lesbians don't like to watch porn, but that's largely because it's nearly all made for men... Catch-22.


The same applies to yaoi being 90% fujoshi pandering. I don't even think I've ever seen a yaoi VN thats not an otome game, although I don't consume it personally.



pugsaremydrugs - Group: Unofficial Gardener's Guild - Total Posts: 980
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Posted on: 01/11/21 09:14PM

supremz said:
Strangely, I actually prefer the music and acting in hentai. Perhaps that makes me odd, because I have only ever encountered people complaining about the audio in porn on this site, and it seems like a common opinion. Maybe I need to get out more. :P

the quintessential hentai song is seflish high heels from that undress your succubloli video in my findings. what else have you found?
AssJacket said:
...yaoi being 90% fujoshi pandering.

fujoshis seem to be the only ones who still enjoy bishounen, so i'd happily hand it to them.



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