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supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1469
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Posted on: 04/25/21 11:59AM

laura.loli:
based in religious beliefs, and pretty much don't give a damn about your actual physical and mental health.


If you do have an addiction to masturbation, then you should seek help from a psychologist

They're the same people. :/



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3032
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Posted on: 04/25/21 12:32PM

Damn, I have to admit this topic made me rethink some things. I masturbate a lot; there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm starting to believe I should slow it down a bit. If I'm not stressed out for work/education/personal reasons, then I will spank it daily, and often up to three times a day. It feels great and it's not something I feel I need to fully drop, because when it comes to private habits that aren't causing me or anyone else physical harm, I'll enjoy it as much as I want. However maybe I should reduce my general habits to once every two-four days? Not because the act is bad, or that I retract my previous statement that the "nofap benefits" being overexagereted, but because maybe it's a personal challenge I can overcome? Maybe I can learn more self-control, something which I am quite terrible at? Eh, maybe only time will tell.



kiwid - Group: Member - Total Posts: 7
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Posted on: 04/25/21 01:17PM

I don't even masturbate a lot and lately I feel that nofap is something I should at least try. It might be unscientific or whatever but if it works it works, right? The power of placebo and such.



siquall - Group: Member - Total Posts: 11
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Posted on: 04/25/21 01:26PM

It's ridiculous.

Fapping is natural, trying to stop it or refrain it is unatural, that's it.

People these days really like to create stupids problems for no reasons.



kiwid - Group: Member - Total Posts: 7
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Posted on: 04/25/21 01:32PM

siquall said:
It's ridiculous.

Fapping is natural, trying to stop it or refrain it is unatural, that's it.

People these days really like to create stupids problems for no reasons.

Fapping might be natural but creating whole industries around it isn't. Not that being "natural" is an inherently positive trait.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1469
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Posted on: 04/25/21 01:50PM

You could also argue that masturbation is unnatural because it's a learned behavior and wasn't always a part of adolescence as it's thought to be in our society. I imagine at one point homo sapiens were not even aware it was possible for a period of their lives. I mean, I know it's obvious now, but like that's because people have done it before. Probably the idea of saving yourself for sex originates in people not really knowing how it works until they discover their mate. It's also a new thing that you date and experiment with kissing and foreplay and stuff instead of just impregnating the first girl who lays eyes on you because you became a man after you killed your first warrior with a short sword at the age of 13. Or maybe that's too much Conan The Barbarian running through me, or caffeine... same thing.



laura.loli - Group: Unofficial Gardener's Guild - Total Posts: 350
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Posted on: 04/25/21 03:00PM

supremz said:
laura.loli:
based in religious beliefs, and pretty much don't give a damn about your actual physical and mental health.


If you do have an addiction to masturbation, then you should seek help from a psychologist

They're the same people. :/

While there are some psychologists that bring their religious beliefs into their job and cause harm, most don't. And even the ones that do could still help with addiction issues, because regardless of the type of addiction, there's a lot of common roots that lead to the addictive behavior.

Still, if you do see a psychologist because you believe you're addicted to masturbation and they tell you that you shouldn't masturbate at all... find a different one, because that one's not being impartial.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1469
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Posted on: 04/25/21 03:27PM

Paying a psychologist for curing an addiction is like paying a hitman to babysit, or paying a rabbi to perform a vasectomy. It just isn't going to happen. As Friedrich Nietzsche once said, "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."

Well, that's where you're going if you don't give them what they want. Don't say I didn't warn you. You should never trust anyone who has the authority to incarcerate you whenever they wish.

Of course there are some benevolent shrinks somewhere, statistically speaking, there would have to be. My bet's that they won't last in their profession for very long, though, and anyways, logic alone would dictate that there's some good in EVERYTHING, if possible, but I promise you they are all frauds. No matter how advanced the science, psychology will always be used to control people, not for rehabilitation.



NullStar - Group: Member - Total Posts: 52
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Posted on: 04/25/21 03:50PM

I think I've posted this a few times here in the forums, but the more you use porn, the weirder your interests will get. Have your fun, but don't forget to take care of your other needs, too. And maybe even take a break once in a while.



EveryCitrus - Group: Member - Total Posts: 26
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Posted on: 04/25/21 04:16PM

supremz said:
You could also argue that masturbation is unnatural because it's a learned behavior and wasn't always a part of adolescence as it's thought to be in our society. I imagine at one point homo sapiens were not even aware it was possible for a period of their lives.

I don't see how anyone could seriously argue that, not at all. Masturbation is observed across the animal kingdom - nobody is teaching animals to jerk off.

Even more strikingly so is just how sexually active primates are in general. Bonobo sexual behaviour is legendary in being way more casual about it and common on average than a random selection of humans would be. Looking at other primate species, our sexual behaviours are absolutely with natural precedent.

kiwid said:
I don't even masturbate a lot and lately I feel that nofap is something I should at least try. It might be unscientific or whatever but if it works it works, right? The power of placebo and such.

Don't get me wrong, I tried it once for a laugh as well. Eventually even the fun angle of edging/self-applied-submission wore thin, and all that happened was I was more spontaneously horny. Nothing else improved - all that really changed was that I stopped doing one of the things I most enjoy doing in my own time.



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